{"id":475,"date":"2023-11-16T08:05:00","date_gmt":"2023-11-16T16:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/embedded.gusto.com\/blog\/?p=475"},"modified":"2023-12-13T14:19:27","modified_gmt":"2023-12-13T22:19:27","slug":"the-future-of-embedded-finance-partnerships-with-banks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/embedded.gusto.com\/blog\/the-future-of-embedded-finance-partnerships-with-banks\/","title":{"rendered":"A Glimpse Into the Future of Embedded Finance Partnerships with Banks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Embedded finance partnerships with banks may be turning a corner. At least that\u2019s the consensus from thought leaders in the embedded finance space following our September 2023 announcement that <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/gusto.com\/company-news\/chase-payment-solutions-taps-gusto-embedded-to-offer-embedded-payroll-services-to-customers-in-platform\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chase Payment Solutions had selected Gusto<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> as their embedded payroll partner.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/embedded.gusto.com\/blog\/embedded-finance-trends-benefits-and-growth-potential\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Embedded finance<\/a> has become synonymous with innovation, particularly for financial institutions offering SMBs seamless and integrated operational and financial solutions. <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2023\/09\/14\/jpmorgan-to-offer-online-payroll-services.html\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CNBC covered the announcement<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and Closing Bell anchor <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/jonfortt_josh-reeves-gusto-ceo-on-gustos-payroll-activity-7108222954819186688-7shg?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jon Fortt also interviewed Gusto\u2019s CEO Josh Reeves<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (watch the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Tnopw34l-PM\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">full interview here<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">). The partnership between Chase Payment Solutions and Gusto Embedded underscores this trend of fintech\u2014finserv partnerships but several commentators have opined that we\u2019ve reached an inflection point for financial services sector.<\/span><\/p>\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Tnopw34l-PM\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What the embedded finance experts are saying<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The decision by Chase Payment Solutions to select Gusto Embedded as its payroll partner has triggered insightful analyses within the fintech community about the future of embedded fintech partnerships with banks.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Simon Taylor, Head of Strategy at Sardine, discussed this collaboration in his post titled <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/sytaylor.substack.com\/p\/fintech-food-the-frontier-of-embedded\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Frontier of Embedded Finance<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. In the post he highlights the upward trajectory of embedded finance on the complexity curve, unlocking astonishing product innovations. This move is seen as a testament to the vast opportunities for growth when established banks partner with enterprise-ready fintech companies, as noted by Taylor.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cBanks have so much more opportunity to partner for growth. This is a new case study example of a bank with amazing distribution partnering with a Fintech company that can deliver enterprise-ready services\u2026 Enterprise-ready Fintech companies can help you cross-sell to your existing client base, reduce costs, or get more operationally secure.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Simon Taylor<\/b><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The sentiment is echoed in the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/a16z.com\/newsletter\/introducing-the-a16z-global-payments-hub\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A16Z newsletter<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> by Joe Schmidt of Andreessen Horowitz, who suggests a potential turning point:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDespite the last few years of startup activity accelerating financial services infrastructure\u2026 incumbents have largely remained on the sidelines when it comes to embedded fintech experiences. J.P. Morgan Chase\u2019s recent partnership with Gusto, however, may be a sign that embedded fintech\u2014the idea that a company with sizable distribution offers additional financial services products to its existing customers\u2014has finally arrived for larger incumbents.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This partnership is a great example of the win\/win\/win scenario promised by embedded fintech.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Joe Schmidt<\/b><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Alex Johnson, the founder of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/workweek.com\/2023\/09\/18\/proptech-platypuses\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fintech Takes<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, discussed the announcement in the context of the SMB sector, stating that the trend toward rebundling might be more relevant in small business banking, where owners seek simplicity and efficiency.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI\u2019m impressed that Gusto landed JPMC as a partner. Chase buys fintech companies. It doesn\u2019t often partner with them\u2026\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We talk a lot about rebundling in the consumer banking space, but it might be an even more relevant trend in the small business banking space. Small business owners are some of the busiest and most stressed people that you can find. They don\u2019t have time to cut the cord and manage a bunch of streaming apps. They want to pay for cable.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Alex Johnson<\/b><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Finally, Sara Khari at <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/tearsheet.co\/payments\/strengthening-ties-with-smbs-chase-now-offers-digital-payroll-processing\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tearsheet<\/span><\/i><\/a> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">pointed out that what makes an embedded payroll partnership different from, say fintech innovation in payments and card issuing, revolves around the high compliance requirements that are core to withholding calculations, tax filings, and tax notice resolution.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cPlatforms like Gusto can make a difference by helping their clients simplify the process of running payroll, generating pay stubs, calculating withholding taxes, and filing the right documentation with the respective agencies\u2026 The amount of intricacies and technicalities involved in this process is what likely led Chase Payments to partner with Gusto to provide the underlying technology for the new payroll feature \u2013 and save business owners time to focus on their core business.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Sara Khari<\/b><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Additional Commentary on the Evolution of Embedded Finance Partnerships with Banks<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pymnts.com\/payroll\/2023\/chase-payment-solutions-partners-with-gusto-to-add-payroll\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Chase Payment Solutions Partners With Gusto to Add Payroll<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> &#8211; <\/span><b>PYMNTS<\/b><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/pulse\/jpmorgan-partners-gusto-payroll-smbs-fintech-nexus\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">JPMorgan partners with Gusto on payroll for SMBs<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> &#8211; <\/span><b>Fintech Nexus<\/b><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bankingdive.com\/news\/jpmorgan-gusto-embedded-payroll-services-fintech\/694269\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">JPMorgan taps Gusto to offer embedded payroll services<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> &#8211; <\/span><b>Banking Dive<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Future of Fintech-Bank Collaborations<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sara Khari from <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/tearsheet.co\/payments\/strengthening-ties-with-smbs-chase-now-offers-digital-payroll-processing\/\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tearsheet<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> also noted the evolving competition between established SMB banks and newer non-bank competitors:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe lack of flexibility and adaptability in legacy banking infrastructure has provided fintechs and payment processors such as Square, PayPal, and Stripe with the opportunity to better address the payment needs of SMBs\u2026 In a move to compete with non-bank players, JPMC\u2019s Chase Payment Solutions has forged a partnership with Gusto\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">By partnering with Gusto, Chase Payment Solutions has positioned itself to offer a broader, more integrated offering for small business owners. As small businesses increasingly rely on technology, they simultaneously struggle with disconnected systems and limited resources for integration.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In recent years, commentators have asked: who will dominate the financial technology landscape in the future, fintech companies or traditional banks? However, partnerships like the one between Gusto and Chase Payment Solutions show that this question about innovation is not a binary outcome. As Gusto CEO Josh Reeves pointed out in his interview with Jon Fortt:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThe partnership between Gusto and Chase Payment Solutions will offer small businesses more choices and easier access to modern payroll services\u2026<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think it&#8217;s about giving ultimately the business owner choice&#8230; The good news is there are companies like Gusto and others really focused on wanting to work with banking partners of all sizes in order to better serve SMBs.&#8221;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Josh Reeves<\/b><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Learn more about Gusto Embedded\u2019s solutions for <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/embedded.gusto.com\/solutions\/banking-fintech\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">banks and fintechs here<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Embedded finance partnerships with banks may be turning a corner. 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